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Broadcast Live on
A Supply-Side Briefing on the Future of the Defense Industry
Friday, October 10, 2003 11:00 AM
Byron Callan, Merrill Lynch
Stan Crock, Business Week
Richard Perle, AEI
Andrew Ross, Naval War College
Keynote Address: Ronald Sugar, Northrop Grumman Corporation
Ron Sugar, CEO Northrop Grumman: Hi.
Grant F. Smith, IRmep: Hi.
Grant F. Smith, IRmep: I've got a quick question. We've just emerged from period where financial analysts, on Wall Street, created a particular set of problems for the small investor, for being too close to the industry. It seems to many outsiders...
Ron Sugar, CEO Northrop Grumman: ...are you referring to the research report that caused the market caps to all plunge?
Grant F. Smith, IRmep: No, I'm referring to just too much communication between the so-called "analysts"....
Ron Sugar, CEO Northrop Grumman: ...oh..
Grant F. Smith, IRmep:..and the industry. In the interest of disclosure, and allaying these fears to the American people now, when defense purchases are so critical, could you give us an idea, and this is as much for the AEI people as you, how much of the policy research, telling us who we should shoot at, and what we should shoot at them with, particularly produced by Mr. Perle, how much of this AEI policy research is being funded by the defense industry?
Your Schedule B forms on the (IRS) 990's don't really tell the public where the money is coming from. And just in the interest of full and fair disclosure, I think it's a critical thing to disclose. Thank you
Ron Sugar, CEO Northrop Grumman: Yeah. I don't know the specific numbers. I can assure you that the, there is a enormous value to, for companies like mine and others to work with all sources of intellectual capital around the, company, country rather, and sometimes outside the country, both in terms of technological advice
and policy advice. If you think about our thoughts about the future a decade ago, if we were simply hunkered down in lab coats with our noses to our test tubes, we wouldn't have figured out that there was
major policy shifts that would change future of warfare. Which means we should retool and reinvest our company in a certain direction. So having good input from outsiders is important, at the end of the day we have to make the decision as to what we do with it. And yes in fact, if we ask for studies to be done, we will pay for them to be done. I don't have any figures about how much money we are spending today.
Christopher DeMuth, President, American Enterprise Institute: ...I will say on behalf of AEI, that our donations from defense contractors make up an extraordinarily, even pitifully small amount of our total contributions.
Ron Sugar, CEO Northrop Grumman: ....that's not a bad thing you know...
IRmep Note: From one perspective, the classic "guns or butter" tradeoff for US exports to the Arab world can be simplified into a single stark question: Is it becoming more attractive to export US technology and services to the region through military conflict?
IRmep deeply questions the motives of such AEI panel members as Richard Perle, who not only receives policy funding from the industry for which he creates a market, but is actively profiteering from conflict.
America can do better.
IRmep is beginning to move our regional policy back toward serving the interests of all
Americans. In this, Ron Sugar, CEO of Northrop is right: It is not a bad thing to
completely separate US policy research from defense contractor funding, especially our
Middle East policy. Toward this end, IRmep will work with major US defense
contractors to educate and convince them that funding policy research pundits is not
healthy for the American democracy. A glass wall between research analysts and
investment bankers is now working on Wall Street, it will protect America from creative
policy accounting on Think Tank row as well.
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